Corn Bread - Torta de Elote



See the original recipe by Tía Freya at the bottom.

Ingredients Adapted for American Corn

2 packages (10.8 oz /306 grams each), of gold and white corn,  defrosted
125 grams (9 tablespoons) butter, melted
4 large eggs, at room temperature
132 grams (2/3 cup) granulated sugar
132 grams (3/4 cup) sweet rice flour (see notes)
4 grams (1-1/2 teaspoons) baking powder
3 grams (1/2 teaspoon) Kosher salt

Directions

1. Prep the oven and mold: Preheat the oven to 350°F (175°C). Grease a 9 x 9 ceramic baking dish or mold with butter.

2. Prepare ingredients: Defrost the corn in the microwave if using frozen (about 2-3 minutes). Melt the butter in the microwave (45-50 seconds) and set it aside to cool slightly.

3. Blend the ingredients: Add the defrosted corn, melted butter, eggs, sugar, sweet rice flour, baking powder, and salt to a food processor. Blend until mostly smooth, leaving some texture if desired.

4. Bake: Pour the batter into the prepared mold. Bake at 350°F until the sides are golden and a toothpick inserted into the center comes out clean, approximately [time needed].

5. Cool and serve: Allow the baked corn cake to cool in the mold for about 10 minutes. If using a ceramic baking dish, cut the cake into individual serve-sized pieces directly in the dish and leave them there for serving. If using another mold, transfer the cake to a serving dish before cutting into pieces.

Notes

2021: Needed a little more salt. when used 1/4 teaspoon salt. 
2022: Tried 1/2 teaspoon Kosher salt. 
2024: I ran out of sweet rice flour and substituted 1/4 cup + 1/8 cup of rice flour and 1/4 cup + 1/8 cup all-purpose flour. The substitution resulted in a less liquidy cake with better structure. Added the weight equivalents in grams for next time. 

Original Recipe, Tia Freya Pego de Merino:

Ingredients

625 grams of Mexican white corn from 5 husks
2 eggs
200 grams (1 cup) sugar
90 grams (1 stick) melted butter
1 pinch of salt

Directions

Add all ingredients to a blender and liquefy. Bake at 350 degrees Fahrenheit until golden for about half an hour. 




See discussion with ChatGPT about the two recipes and best starch to use in the recipe adaptation for US corn.


what is the difference between Mexican white corn and US corn?
ChatGPT said:
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Mexican white corn and U.S. corn differ in several aspects, including variety, use, texture, taste, and cultural significance. Here are the main distinctions:

1. Variety

  • Mexican White Corn (Maíz Blanco): This refers to varieties of corn native to Mexico, such as Cacahuazintle, Tuxpeño, or other landraces. It is often grown for traditional culinary uses like tortillas, tamales, pozole, and atole.
  • U.S. Corn: In the United States, corn is largely dominated by Zea mays indurata (dent corn) and Zea mays everta (popcorn). Dent corn is used primarily for animal feed, ethanol, and processed products, while sweet corn is grown for fresh consumption.

2. Texture and Taste

  • Mexican White Corn:
    • Has a firmer, denser texture, often requiring nixtamalization (a process of soaking and cooking in an alkaline solution) to make it suitable for tortillas or tamales.
    • The taste is earthier and nuttier, often with more complex flavors due to the heirloom varieties and growing conditions.
  • U.S. Corn:
    • Sweet corn (the type consumed as a vegetable) is softer, juicier, and much sweeter, bred specifically for fresh consumption.
    • Dent corn is starchier, with a grainy texture and less inherent sweetness.

3. Uses

  • Mexican White Corn: Central to traditional Mexican cuisine. It is nixtamalized to produce masa (dough) for tortillas, tamales, and more. It's also used in drinks like atole and dishes like pozole.
  • U.S. Corn:
    • Dent corn is used industrially, processed into corn syrup, ethanol, starch, and feed.
    • Sweet corn is consumed fresh, canned, or frozen.

4. Cultural and Historical Significance

  • Mexican White Corn: Corn (maize) is deeply rooted in Mesoamerican cultures. In Mexico, maize is considered sacred and integral to identity, agriculture, and gastronomy. Indigenous practices preserve heirloom strains.
  • U.S. Corn: In the U.S., corn production is a massive industry geared toward economic and agricultural efficiency. Modern hybrid strains dominate, often genetically modified for pest and herbicide resistance.

5. Genetics

  • Mexican White Corn: Includes a vast genetic diversity, with over 60 recognized landraces. It is often open-pollinated and preserved for biodiversity.
  • U.S. Corn: Focused on hybrid and GMO varieties for maximum yield, uniformity, and resistance to pests or harsh climates.

6. Appearance

  • Mexican White Corn: The kernels are larger, harder, and often more irregular in shape.
  • U.S. Corn: Sweet corn is plumper, with evenly sized kernels, while dent corn has a distinctive "dent" in the top of the kernel.

Summary Table:

FeatureMexican White CornU.S. Corn
TypeLandrace, HeirloomHybrid, GMO
TextureDense, firmSweet corn: soft; Dent: starchy
FlavorEarthy, nuttySweet corn: sugary; Dent: mild
Primary UseMasa, pozole, atoleSweet corn, feed, ethanol
Cultural RoleSacred in Mesoamerican cultureEconomic, industrial focus
AppearanceLarger, irregular kernelsPlump or dented kernels

Each type of corn is optimized for its specific environment and cultural context, highlighting the diversity and adaptability of maize.

You said:
how can I adapt the mexican recipe that follows using US corn to add the starchiness that the mexican corn brings? 625 grams of corn from 5 husks 2 eggs 200 grams (1 cup) sugar 90 grams (1 stick) melted butter 1 pinch of salt
ChatGPT said:
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To adapt your Mexican recipe using U.S. sweet corn while mimicking the starchiness of Mexican corn, you can add a small amount of cornstarch or masa harina (nixtamalized corn flour). These additions will provide the texture and flavor balance closer to Mexican white corn. Here's how:

Adjustments to the Recipe:

Ingredients:

  • Corn: Use the kernels from 5 U.S. sweet corn ears as specified. Sweet corn is juicier, so it may need to be slightly dried out.
  • Cornstarch or Masa Harina: Add 2-3 tablespoons of cornstarch for starchiness or masa harina for a more authentic corn flavor.
  • Sugar: Optionally reduce sugar slightly (to 3/4 cup) because U.S. sweet corn is naturally sweeter than Mexican white corn.
  • Butter, Eggs, and Salt: Keep these as-is.

Steps:

  1. Prep the Corn:

    • If the sweet corn is very juicy, consider briefly simmering the kernels to evaporate excess water, or pat them dry with a towel after blending.
    • Blend the corn until smooth or to the desired consistency for your recipe.
  2. Incorporate Starch:

    • Whisk the cornstarch or masa harina into the blended corn. If using masa harina, mix until fully hydrated and smooth.
  3. Proceed with the Recipe:

    • Combine the eggs, sugar, melted butter, and salt with the corn mixture, mixing thoroughly.
    • Adjust the consistency by adding more starch or a splash of milk if needed.
  4. Bake or Cook as Directed:

    • Follow your original baking or cooking instructions.

Why This Works:

  • Cornstarch: Adds smooth starchiness without altering flavor significantly, giving structure closer to denser Mexican corn.
  • Masa Harina: Contributes an authentic corn flavor and thickens the mixture.

These tweaks should bring the texture and balance you’re looking for while using U.S. corn!

You said:
give me more options for cornstarch or masa harina
ChatGPT said:
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If cornstarch or masa harina isn't your preference, here are other options to add starchiness and achieve a texture similar to that provided by Mexican white corn:

1. All-Purpose Flour

  • Use: 2–3 tablespoons.
  • Effect: Thickens and binds the mixture, adding structure without altering flavor significantly.
  • Good For: Neutral taste and readily available in most kitchens.

2. Cornmeal

  • Use: 2–4 tablespoons (fine-ground preferred).
  • Effect: Adds texture and a more pronounced corn flavor. Opt for finely ground cornmeal to avoid grittiness.
  • Good For: A slightly rustic texture and authentic flavor.

3. Tapioca Starch (Tapioca Flour)

  • Use: 1–2 tablespoons.
  • Effect: Adds a smooth, chewy texture and enhances moisture retention in the recipe.
  • Good For: Creating a tender consistency, especially in desserts.

4. Potato Starch

  • Use: 1–2 tablespoons.
  • Effect: Adds starchiness and moisture retention with minimal impact on flavor.
  • Good For: A smooth texture, especially in baked goods.

5. Rice Flour

  • Use: 2–3 tablespoons.
  • Effect: Adds a mild starchiness and structure. It creates a slightly firmer texture, which can resemble traditional Mexican corn recipes.
  • Good For: Gluten-free alternatives.

6. Arrowroot Powder

  • Use: 1–2 tablespoons.
  • Effect: Provides a smooth, clear thickening effect and subtle starchiness without altering taste.
  • Good For: Light and delicate consistency.

7. Polenta or Grits

  • Use: 2–3 tablespoons (fine-ground preferred).
  • Effect: Similar to cornmeal but coarser, contributing to texture and a robust corn flavor.
  • Good For: Rustic dishes or when a chunkier texture is desired.

8. Instant Corn Flour (like Maseca)

  • Use: 2–3 tablespoons.
  • Effect: Similar to masa harina, with a fine texture and nixtamalized flavor. Perfect for replicating traditional Mexican corn dishes.
  • Good For: Authentic corn flavor with minimal fuss.

9. Cream of Wheat (Semolina)

  • Use: 2 tablespoons.
  • Effect: Adds a mild starchiness and slightly grainy texture for a unique twist.
  • Good For: Creating a custard-like, dense texture.

Combining Options

You can also combine two ingredients, such as:

  • 1 tablespoon cornstarch + 1 tablespoon masa harina for a balance of authentic flavor and smoothness.
  • 1 tablespoon cornmeal + 1 tablespoon rice flour for texture and starchiness.

Choose the option that aligns with the desired flavor and texture of your recipe!

You said:
How does this recipe compare to the previous one? 2 packages (10.8 oz /306 grams each), of gold and white corn, defrosted 125 grams (9 tablespoons) butter, melted 4 large eggs, at room temperature 132 grams (2/3 cup) granulated sugar 132 grams (3/4 cup) sweet rice flour 4 grams (1-1/2 teaspoon) baking powder 3 grams (1/2 teaspoon) Kosher salt
ChatGPT said:
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The second recipe introduces several unique elements that shift the texture, flavor, and structure compared to the first one. Here's a breakdown of the key differences and creative ways you can leverage them:


Key Comparisons

  1. Corn Type:

    • First Recipe: Relies on fresh, raw corn, offering natural starch and earthy sweetness. Adjustments were needed to replicate Mexican white corn's starchiness when using U.S. sweet corn.
    • Second Recipe: Uses a mix of gold and white frozen corn, likely sweeter and softer, which simplifies preparation but reduces the traditional texture and flavor of Mexican corn.
  2. Starch Additive:

    • First Recipe: Has no dedicated starch beyond the corn's natural properties, requiring cornstarch, masa harina, or similar for added structure.
    • Second Recipe: Incorporates sweet rice flour, a gluten-free binder that contributes chewiness and smoothness, creating a cake-like consistency.
  3. Eggs:

    • First Recipe: Uses 2 eggs, keeping the batter light and minimally binding.
    • Second Recipe: Uses 4 eggs, likely creating a richer, custard-like texture, with enhanced fluffiness from the baking powder.
  4. Sweetness and Butter:

    • First Recipe: More butter (1 stick) and sugar (1 cup) for a denser, more dessert-like outcome.
    • Second Recipe: Moderates sugar (2/3 cup) and butter (9 tablespoons), balancing sweetness and richness for a lighter feel.

Creative Comparisons and Ideas

  1. Texture Exploration:

    • The second recipe, with its inclusion of baking powder and sweet rice flour, leans more toward a soft, cake-like texture, ideal for dessert-style cornbread or corn pudding.
    • If you'd like to bring back the denser, starchier feel of the first recipe, you could mix in 1-2 tablespoons of masa harina or fine cornmeal.
  2. Sweetness Play:

    • The second recipe’s balanced sweetness opens creative doors. You could add savory ingredients like a hint of cheese (cotija or cheddar) for contrast or fold in fresh herbs (like cilantro or parsley) to make it more versatile.
  3. Fusing Ideas:

    • Blend aspects of both recipes: Use fresh corn as in the first recipe, but incorporate sweet rice flour and baking powder from the second for a hybrid that combines traditional flavors with modern textures.
  4. Tropical Twist:

    • Pair the second recipe’s custard-like texture with tropical flavors. Fold in shredded coconut, lime zest, or diced pineapple for a fresh take on corn-based desserts.
  5. Visual Appeal:

    • Use the gold and white corn's aesthetic in the second recipe by setting aside some kernels to mix in whole after blending for a visually striking speckled batter.

Summary

  • First Recipe: A simpler, traditional base with earthy sweetness, leaning on corn’s natural properties.
  • Second Recipe: More structured, thanks to sweet rice flour and eggs, with potential for both savory and dessert interpretations. Perfect for elevating the dish into something unexpected, like a gluten-free cake or pudding-style bake.

Both recipes have distinct merits, but combining their strengths could yield something extraordinary!

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You said:
What can I substitute the sweet rice flour with?
ChatGPT said:
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If you want to substitute sweet rice flour in the second recipe, here are several options you can consider, depending on your dietary preferences or what you have on hand:

1. Regular Rice Flour

  • Substitute Ratio: 1:1
  • Effect: Like sweet rice flour, regular rice flour will provide a light texture, but it lacks the stickiness that sweet rice flour offers. It may result in a slightly less chewy and moist product.

2. Cornstarch

  • Substitute Ratio: 1/2 cup cornstarch for 2/3 cup sweet rice flour
  • Effect: Cornstarch can help achieve a smooth and tender texture. However, it won’t contribute to the same chewiness or structure, so it may not mimic the texture of sweet rice flour as perfectly.

3. Tapioca Flour (Tapioca Starch)

  • Substitute Ratio: 1:1
  • Effect: Tapioca flour provides a chewy, slightly sticky texture, similar to sweet rice flour, which helps bind the mixture. It also enhances moisture retention, making it a good alternative for a soft, moist texture.

4. Masa Harina (Corn Flour)

  • Substitute Ratio: 1:1
  • Effect: If you want to add more authentic corn flavor and texture, masa harina can work. It has a slightly different texture (denser and a bit more granular), so the final product may be less smooth, but it will still be delicious and more corn-forward in flavor.

5. Gluten-Free All-Purpose Flour (with xanthan gum or guar gum)

  • Substitute Ratio: 1:1
  • Effect: If you're seeking a gluten-free alternative, a store-bought all-purpose gluten-free flour blend can replace sweet rice flour. Many blends contain xanthan gum or guar gum, which helps mimic the elasticity that sweet rice flour would provide.

6. Almond Flour

  • Substitute Ratio: 1:1 (though you may need to add a little more for consistency)
  • Effect: Almond flour will add a nutty flavor and softer texture. It won’t provide the same binding ability as sweet rice flour, so the result may be a bit crumblier. It’s a great option for a more indulgent or nutty flavor profile.

7. Coconut Flour

  • Substitute Ratio: Start with 1/3 of the amount and increase as needed (about 1/4 cup coconut flour for 2/3 cup sweet rice flour)
  • Effect: Coconut flour is highly absorbent, so you may need to adjust the liquid content of your recipe (add a bit more butter, egg, or liquid). It will provide a slightly drier texture but a nice flavor if you enjoy coconut.

8. Potato Starch

  • Substitute Ratio: 1:1
  • Effect: Potato starch is a great option for providing moisture and structure. It won't add much flavor but will work well for binding ingredients and creating a smooth, soft texture.

9. All-Purpose Flour (for non-gluten-free recipes)

  • Substitute Ratio: 1:1
  • Effect: If gluten isn’t an issue for you, regular all-purpose flour can easily replace sweet rice flour. However, it won't replicate the chewiness and moisture retention of sweet rice flour, so the result may be slightly drier or less tender.

Choosing the Best Substitute:

  • For Chewiness: Tapioca flour, cornstarch, or potato starch would be your best bets.
  • For Flavor: Masa harina or almond flour will add flavor along with texture.
  • For Gluten-Free Recipes: Stick with options like rice flour (regular or sweet), tapioca flour, or a gluten-free all-purpose blend.

If you substitute with masa harina or regular rice flour, you may lose some of the chewiness that sweet rice flour imparts, but the recipe will still work well in terms of flavor and structure. You can also experiment by combining some of these options (e.g., cornstarch + rice flour) for a more balanced result.

You said:
Overall, what would be the best ingredient to use in the second recipe, sweet rice flour or one of the substitutes?
ChatGPT said:
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In the second recipe, sweet rice flour is the most ideal ingredient because it provides specific benefits that contribute to the texture and structure of the dish. However, if you don’t have it on hand, some substitutes will work, but they each come with slight trade-offs. Here’s a breakdown of why sweet rice flour is preferred and which substitutes would work best based on your needs:

Why Sweet Rice Flour is Best:

  1. Chewy, Moist Texture: Sweet rice flour has a unique stickiness and moisture-retaining quality that gives the final dish a soft, chewy, and tender texture, especially when mixed with baking powder and eggs. This is particularly important for creating the desired consistency in recipes like puddings, cakes, or moist cornbreads.

  2. Binding Properties: It helps bind the ingredients together without making the dish dense, which is crucial when working with corn and eggs.

  3. Flavor Profile: It doesn't overpower the corn flavor and works harmoniously with other ingredients like butter, eggs, and sugar.

Best Substitute Choices for Similar Texture:

  1. Tapioca Flour (Tapioca Starch):

    • Why It's Good: Tapioca flour provides chewiness and moisture retention, which is very close to the effect of sweet rice flour. It's especially useful if you want to keep the texture soft and chewy.
    • When to Use: If you are looking for a similar texture but don’t have sweet rice flour, tapioca flour is the next best choice. It works particularly well for gluten-free recipes.
  2. Masa Harina (Corn Flour):

    • Why It's Good: If you prefer a more authentic corn flavor and texture, masa harina can work well, especially in dishes that are intended to highlight the corn. It may make the recipe denser and grainier, but it will impart a distinctive corn taste.
    • When to Use: If you’re aiming for a traditional corn flavor, masa harina is a good substitute, but keep in mind it won’t provide the same level of chewiness and moisture as sweet rice flour.
  3. Regular Rice Flour:

    • Why It's Good: Regular rice flour is a fairly neutral substitute, offering a slightly lighter texture than sweet rice flour. It can still provide the soft structure needed for the recipe, though it lacks the same sticky quality.
    • When to Use: This is a fine substitute when you don’t have sweet rice flour but still want a light, airy texture.

Other Substitutes:

  • Cornstarch and potato starch are good for thickening, but they won’t provide the same chewiness or moistness as sweet rice flour. These are better for recipes where texture isn’t the primary concern but thickening is needed.
  • Almond flour or coconut flour will change the flavor and texture significantly, so they should only be used if you're looking for a different result (e.g., more nutty or coconutty flavors).

Conclusion:

Sweet rice flour is the best choice if you want to maintain the exact texture and flavor profile the recipe aims for. If it's unavailable, tapioca flour would be the next closest match, offering similar chewiness and texture. Masa harina is a good option if you want to enhance the corn flavor, though it will affect the texture slightly.

calculate the volume of both recipes
ChatGPT said:
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To calculate the volume of both recipes, we need to approximate the volume of each ingredient and then add them together. Let’s go through the calculations for each recipe:


First Recipe (Mexican Corn Version)

Ingredients:

  • 625 grams of corn from 5 husks (approx.)
  • 2 eggs
  • 200 grams (1 cup) sugar
  • 90 grams (1 stick) melted butter
  • 1 pinch of salt (negligible volume)

Approximate Volume of Ingredients:

  1. Corn (625 grams):

    • Corn kernels are approximately 1 gram per milliliter (mL) when measured fresh.
    • Therefore, 625 grams of corn625 mL.
  2. Eggs (2 large eggs):

    • 1 large egg ≈ 50 mL.
    • Therefore, 2 eggs100 mL.
  3. Sugar (200 grams):

    • 1 cup of granulated sugar is approximately 200 grams and equals 240 mL (since sugar is denser than water).
  4. Butter (90 grams / 1 stick):

    • 1 stick of butter ≈ 120 mL (since 1 stick of butter is about 1/2 cup).
  5. Salt:

    • The volume of a pinch of salt is negligible, so we will ignore this for the volume calculation.

Total Volume for First Recipe:

  • Corn: 625 mL
  • Eggs: 100 mL
  • Sugar: 240 mL
  • Butter: 120 mL

Total Volume625 mL + 100 mL + 240 mL + 120 mL = 1,085 mL (1.085 liters).


Second Recipe (Sweet Rice Flour Version)

Ingredients:

  • 2 packages (306 grams each) of gold and white corn, defrosted (total 612 grams)
  • 125 grams (9 tablespoons) butter, melted
  • 4 large eggs
  • 132 grams (2/3 cup) granulated sugar
  • 132 grams (3/4 cup) sweet rice flour
  • 4 grams (1-1/2 teaspoon) baking powder
  • 3 grams (1/2 teaspoon) kosher salt

Approximate Volume of Ingredients:

  1. Corn (612 grams):

    • Assuming corn has the same density as fresh corn kernels (1 gram ≈ 1 mL),
    • 612 grams of corn612 mL.
  2. Butter (125 grams / 9 tablespoons):

    • 1 tablespoon of butter is about 14 grams, so 9 tablespoons is approximately 125 grams, which equals 180 mL.
  3. Eggs (4 large eggs):

    • 1 large egg ≈ 50 mL.
    • Therefore, 4 eggs200 mL.
  4. Sugar (132 grams / 2/3 cup):

    • 2/3 cup of sugar is approximately 160 mL.
  5. Sweet Rice Flour (132 grams / 3/4 cup):

    • 1 cup of sweet rice flour is approximately 120 grams, so 3/4 cup is about 90 mL.
    • 132 grams would be slightly more than 3/4 cup, approximately 110 mL.
  6. Baking Powder (4 grams / 1.5 teaspoons):

    • Baking powder is light, so 1 teaspoon weighs about 4 grams.
    • 4 grams5 mL.
  7. Salt (3 grams / 1/2 teaspoon):

    • Salt is very dense, but 1/2 teaspoon is approximately 2.5 mL.

Total Volume for Second Recipe:

  • Corn: 612 mL
  • Butter: 180 mL
  • Eggs: 200 mL
  • Sugar: 160 mL
  • Sweet rice flour: 110 mL
  • Baking powder: 5 mL
  • Salt: 2.5 mL

Total Volume612 mL + 180 mL + 200 mL + 160 mL + 110 mL + 5 mL + 2.5 mL = 1,269.5 mL (1.2695 liters).


Summary of Volumes:

  • First Recipe (Mexican Corn):1,085 mL (1.085 liters)
  • Second Recipe (Sweet Rice Flour Version):1,269.5 mL (1.2695 liters)

The second recipe has a slightly higher volume, mostly due to the higher quantity of eggs, butter, and sugar, which contribute to a more liquid, custard-like consistency.

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